Discussion on Young Earth / Old Earth Creationism May 12th, 2016 Shea Houdmann May 10 at 4:38pm Poll: Do you consider yourself a Young Earth Creationist or an Old Earth Creationist? LikeShow more reactions Comment Seen by 112 6Ed Chait, Steve Ray Webb and 4 others Comments 53 of 55 View previous comments Tim White Middle aged. I sometimes lean gap and sometimes young. Like · Reply · May 10 at 4:40pm Tim White How long is the suspension if I argue with myself? Like · Reply · 4 · May 10 at 4:42pm Shea Houdmann Tim, 14,000,006,000 years. Like · Reply · 2 · May 10 at 4:51pm Write a reply… Robert Lowry Young earth. About 6000 years old. If anyone’s interested I can provide a list of reasons, from both Scripture and science. Like · Reply · 1 · May 10 at 4:41pm Fred Becker Definitely young earth. Bible says it an science backs it up. Like · Reply · May 10 at 4:46pm Cory Carwile Old Like · Reply · May 10 at 4:47pm Kristen Rasor Young Like · Reply · May 10 at 4:50pm Steve Ray Webb Old Like · Reply · May 10 at 4:53pm Jed Kramer Old Like · Reply · May 10 at 4:58pm Dean Revell Young Earth Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:00pm Joe Maxey Young Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:02pm Kenneth Franchino Id say Old earth, due to 2 Peter 3:8 saying how The Lords time is not like ours referencing a thousand years being like a day and vice versa. Also the hebrew word that was translated as day in English means long age or period of time. Like · Reply · 1 · May 10 at 5:07pm Joseph Ford I disagree, Ken. The Hebrew word use for day in Genesis 1 means a 24-hour day. The reference in Peter doesn’t mean a thousand years equals a day to us. It simply means that time is nothing to God because He is outside of it. If the references to “day…See More Like · Reply · May 10 at 6:47pm Jed Kramer Genesis 2:3,4 both use the word “yom”. (This is the case in ‘word for word’ translations.) If both instances mean a 24hr day, then all six 24hr days of creation happened within one 24hr day. This is logically impossible. Yom was either used in both places to refer to an unspecified period of time meaning ‘old earth’ is plausible, or it carried two different meanings in adjacent verses. Two different meanings is possible, but definitely not cut & dry. It definitely leaves room for a Biblical position on either age of earth. Like · Reply · May 10 at 10:43pm Kenneth Franchino Ultimately, at the end of the day all that matters is God made everything, according to his will 😎 Like · Reply · 22 hrs Joseph Ford Jed, context, context, context. Peter says that a thousand years “is as a” or “like a” day. It doesn’t mean “equals”. A thousand years to God goes by like a day for us. It gives no credence or legitimacy to the Old Earth theory. Like · Reply · 24 mins Write a reply… Dawn James Young Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:08pm Adam Davis Yould Like · Reply · 3 · May 10 at 5:10pm Sarah Van Baale Young Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:11pm Justin Tilghman Nowadays, “young,” and I think Scripture shows us that God is able to create things in a mature state given that Adam was given the command to be fruitful and multiply very soon after being created. To me, that explains stars billions of lightyears away, etc. Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:17pm Tim White Obviously God created and built in age in the creation (Shea, I promise I am not arguing) as did Christ when He turned water into wine. The trees and animals seem to be matured, as did Adam and Eve. The New Heaven and New earth will not be just seeded, but if it is seeded, even those presuppose parent trees. But I honestly do not know. Getting where I am really not sure that part of it matters, as long as we take God at His Word that seven days were seven days, regardless of what was there (without form and void) before the seven days. Like · Reply · May 10 at 6:20pm Write a reply… Christopher Dupre Time in one part of our ever-expanding universe is completely different than in another. Young. Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:19pm Heath Tibbetts Youngish Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:20pm · Edited Timothy Craig Munger I am a Creationist, I don’t believe we can put a number of years to it. I am a young earth Creationist. Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:23pm · Edited Grant McKenzie Young Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:26pm James Toland Old Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:34pm Ed Chait Not sure. Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:39pm Daniel Pasono Young Earth Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:41pm Hope McCullough I’m unsure as well. Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:48pm · Edited Craig Simons Young Earth. I take God at His word and even if I didn’t, there are too many problems with neo-Darwinianism to take it as a viable theory of origins. But, that’s just my two cents. Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:54pm · Edited Jed Kramer For the record, “Old Earth” and neo-Darwinian origins are not the same. Setting the stage for life & creating life are different discussions. Like · Reply · May 10 at 8:58pm Craig Simons Given the request of the original poster, I’ll simply say Okay. Like · Reply · 13 hrs · Edited Bruce Fox Young earth just like the Bible states. Like · Reply · May 10 at 10:03pm Write a reply… Stuart Mattfield Young Earth Like · Reply · May 10 at 5:57pm Jonathan Morales I think that there’s no absolute way for us to know for sure. And I wouldn’t take the easy explanation and just say oh the Bible says it’s 6000 years old, cause it really doesn’t. Like · Reply · 3 · May 10 at 5:58pm Beth DeVore I’m conflicted because I’m Young Earth, but I feel like we’ve been arguing/discussing it for 10 million years. Like · Reply · 9 · May 10 at 6:07pm Eric Hoehn Old Earth Like · Reply · May 10 at 6:13pm Vera Rudolph Young Earth. Like · Reply · May 10 at 6:13pm Robert Lowry Here’s why I’m a young earth creationist. (1) The Bible does in fact say the earth is about 6000 years old. Follow the genealogies in Genesis and do the math. It’s about 1650 years from Adam to Noah, about 2350 years from Noah to Jesus, and its been 2000 years from Jesus to now. That’s about 6000 years. (2) Salt in the ocean. The oceans contain about 3.5% salt content. If rivers have been emptying into the oceans for billions of years, there would be so much salt in the ocean it would be saturated. (3) The Niagara River. The NIagara River gorge is about 7 miles long. Niagara Falls recedes at the rate of 4 to 5 feet per year. Again, do the math. The length of the NIagara River Gorge only accounts for about 7000 years of erosion. (4) Helium in the atmosphere. The air contains about 5ppm helium, from radioactive decay of earth’s rocks. Helium accumulates in the atmosphere 43 times faster than it escapes into space. If helium has been accumulating for millions or billions of years, the atmosphere would contain a lot more helium than it does. (5) Earth’s magnetic field. The magnetic field declines by about one-half every 1400 years. This rate is more consistent with a young earth than one that is millions or billions of years old. Like · Reply · 3 · May 10 at 6:15pm Robert Lowry Apologies for that lengthy post, typed it in before seeing Shea’s request for no arguing. Like · Reply · May 10 at 6:37pm Craig Simons I wouldn’t call that arguing. You’re simply stating your position and why you hold it. Now, going back and forth with another trying to “prove your point,” would be arguing. wink emoticon Like · Reply · May 10 at 7:29pm Write a reply… Ed Romero Middle Earth Like · Reply · 6 · May 10 at 6:46pm Ed Romero But seriously, I don’t know Like · Reply · May 10 at 6:46pm Write a reply… Corpuz Valdemor Avellaneda Ramil Young earth but God made everything old. Like · Reply · May 10 at 6:49pm Mark LeMaster Don’t know Like · Reply · May 10 at 7:14pm Lea Ann Davis McCombs Young earth at heart. It’s hard to get away from the ongoing scripture references to a 7-day week and 24-hour days. However, I’m willing to admit there may be more I don’t know about, and the gap theory may have some merit in its various revised forms. But at this stage in life, I am at peace with not having to know everything and be “right” about everything. God did it. I trust Him. It’s enough for me. Like · Reply · May 10 at 7:42pm · Edited Wendyl Leslie Young earth. When we start toying with the idea that God didn’t really mean what He said in the very beginning “And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day,” we start doubting and questioning everything else He said (see Eph. 4:14: James 1:6). We then become gods within our own minds. The Bible warns us against questioning God ( Isaiah 45:9; Romans 9:20-21). Like · Reply · May 10 at 8:22pm Tim White Respectfully, not all old earth question the six 24 hour day creation and a day of rest. As a matter of fact, to me, that is unquestionable, since Jesus stated it. “A day as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day” is not even intimating anything about creation. Like · Reply · May 10 at 8:27pm Tim White Some old earth proponents hold just as tightly to the six days plus one. They just wonder about the “without form and void” and the timeframe of the fall of Satan. Like · Reply · 1 · May 10 at 8:28pm Corpuz Valdemor Avellaneda Ramil God created everything in literal six days but they were created old. Examples: God created the heavens and everything in it in one day but they are millions/billions of years old to men. God created all the trees but some of those trees are hundreds of years old some are several years old depending on the specie of course. God created Adam on the sixth day but he was created as adult probably 30-100 years old capable of multiplication. Like · Reply · May 10 at 9:12pm · Edited Jed Kramer While I consider myself ‘old earth’, I am most passionate about ensuring that non-salvation issues like this do NOT divide us. (John 17:23 , Ephesians 4:3) I fully acknowledge that God is capable of creating everything that exists out of nothing in six 24hr days. While I have reasonable & Biblical support for leaning toward an ‘old earth’, I also acknowledge that there is reasonable & Biblical support for leaning toward a ‘young earth’. I’m not sure what Shea Houdmann will do with these survey results, but I hope that it promotes humility, mutual respect, and emphasis on the most central parts of Scripture for salvation. Like · Reply · 1 · May 10 at 9:08pm Danielle Swiontek young Like · Reply · May 10 at 9:16pm Robbie Locke Young earth Like · Reply · May 10 at 9:22pm Barbara Ann Reynolds Young earth. Like · Reply · May 10 at 10:07pm Emmanuel FixingComputers Noisette Both. I thought this made sense explaining how they both can be true. http://amzn.to/1OgDKOz Genesis and the Big Bang: The Discovery Of Harmony Between Modern Science… AMAZON.COM Like · Reply · Remove Preview · May 10 at 11:51pm Marilyn Mcclintock Young. Like · Reply · Yesterday at 9:39am Gina Cook Young Like · Reply · Yesterday at 9:52am Dean Revell Where reason can not wander, there faith can freely swim. Like · Reply · Yesterday at 11:45am Bradford D. Gray YOUNG Like · Reply · Yesterday at 11:53am Patrick Thompson Definitely young earth advocate. One of the greatest proofs in our time was the Mt. St. Helens debacle. Like · Reply · Yesterday at 6:00pm Jimmy Turner Old Like · Reply · 23 hrs Dan Barkman Old Like · Reply · 22 hrs Cliff Teeyoon Lim Young Like · Reply · 14 hrs Michael Karpf I’m young earth but I’m not dogmatic over it. What there is no debate over is that God created the heavens and the earth Like · Reply · 2 · 14 hrs Robert Marx Young earth Creationist. God spoke. Things came into being.
